Killing the Justice League (For Real) with Joshua Williamson

Here’s a claim that would be hard to dispute: In 2022, Joshua Williamson is the busiest writer in the DC Universe. Last month alone, Williamson’s ongoing storytelling activities continued Batman, Robin and Deathstroke Inc. all converged to Shadow War, an event that may prove to permanently redefine its protagonists. He took the greatest heroes of the multiverse on a journey through endless possibilities Justice League incarnated. He launched a DC Black Label series, Scams, where Captain Cold puts together a robbery for one last job in Gorilla City. But Williamson’s most ambitious initiatives have not yet arrived, such as to kill the entire Justice League in Justice League # 75, series finals. We took some time out of the coming Dark crisis the author’s busy schedule to ask him one question in all our thoughts: really? Like, too right?

Then we are really killing of whole Justice League? Like, aren’t they the main characters in a lot of other books right now?

Yes, I mean, if you read # 75, it’s brutal. There are no spoilers. I talked about this with the editors a few weeks ago, like, “Oh, I’m curious about what to say or post online about them dying,” and (the editors were) basically like, “Look. is spoiler. “(laughs)

Like I’m not ruining anything for you. We have already given away what happens in that edition. But the answer is yes. You know, everything’s going to stick together, and I think you’ll see when we start getting deeper into some of the crossovers, minis, and one-shots, then you’ll see how it starts to set up. And you know you want to see how it all comes together. But they certainly all die in that matter.

So we will see this reflected throughout the line? It’s not just Justice League?

Well, you must see. It’s going to take some time to get there before these things somehow stick together. I mean, you look at how Death metal was right? People forget this, though Death metal and Joker war came out at the same time. It took until the end before things started to line up and reflect, right? And I think it’s the same thing here. It’s going to take some time, but some things will pop up that you will start to see as it goes.

Some books are going to connect more directly, but for me, it was also important that I did not ruin someone else’s book or derail others’ story. We talked a lot about this with the editorial staff. There were certain creators I contacted because I knew they would be more directly affected by it, or perhaps had the opportunity to connect more quickly. I presented these things to the editors a lot over the last year. So that was a big part of it, just making sure I did not mess with someone else’s plans and take over someone else’s book. I did not want anyone to do that to me, so I did not want to do that to anyone else. But you will See some things that connect much faster than others.

So far, the Justice League has managed to meet every challenge they have ever faced. You can always count on the home team bringing back a victory. What makes this time different? How can the Dark Army succeed where so many others have failed?

You know there are a few lines all the way through, this and in Dark crisis, where I think there’s a kind of attitude like, “Well, that’s what we’re doing. You know, we’re stopping crises. So we know how we’re doing this this time.” But there are a few basket balls in here that they just do not see coming, you know? And of course, when you look at the list of who’s in the Dark Army – usually it would take the entire Justice League or a whole bunch of characters in the past. Like with Nekron, it took a whole lot of green lanterns, plus Sinestro and with the whole Justice League. Even then, they could barely stop Neron, and it came down to Shazam. Billy Batson had to be the one to stop Neron.

Hawkgirl says it in the number. Hawkgirl is like, “Usually in the past, it’s taken us all to take one of these down. How are we going to do this where there are so many of them?” The army of characters that we’ve shown so far is not even the full list. It’s not the full army. You will see it when # 75 rolls out. More is happening. It’s an impossible situation, and they come close – they come really, really close. But in the end, they’re mostly just able to stop this attack from happening. Just like they want to stop this army from coming to Earth, and it’s a kind of victory for them, but then there is a whole other twist to the story.

If you have read from the beginning, if you read Infinite limit and Justice League incarnated, you somehow know what’s coming and you know what’s going to happen. And then you get to see the aftermath of it.

And that’s what we’re doing with the cartoon Free Comic Day and The road to dark crisis history. You get to see how all these characters on Earth react to the news that Justice League is dead. Some characters believe in it and some do not! There’s a story coming up with Jon Kent and Nightwing, it’s inside The road to dark crisis, where Jon freaks out. He says, “They are dead.” And he gets a panic attack all over it, and then Nightwing is kind of, “You know they died before, right?” And Jon is a bit like, “Not everyone has your experience with this. Not everyone is that hopeful, and people are scared, and they’re worried.”

It was part of what this story was about for me, to show an event like this, a crisis event, from different points of view. That was really interesting, because I wrote a lot of this a long time ago, right? We’re really far ahead with this project, probably more than I’ve ever seen at an event in my time on DC. So with any of this book, there’s a lot of conversation about, “do we believe or do we not believe they’re dead?” And I use that to talk about what death means in DCU now.

A few years ago, we were working on some projects about what we should do after-Death metal. We had made this chart over a certain era of DC history. I stared at it and I started to feel some things down and I thought, “Man, that was this ten-year period where every character died twice. What does it do do to them?”

They are functionally immortal. What do we do about it?

Yes Yes! So what does that mean in this world? I wanted to explore those ideas. I wanted to investigate what death meant. And again, these would mean that you have to spend for these processes. Some just say, “They’re coming back, don’t worry about it.” And some people say, ‘It’s me very worried about it. “And then you have some characters, some of the villains, who say,” Well, if they’re gone now, we’ll take our shots. We want to take advantage of that now. ”

The parallels here with the 25th anniversary of Superman’s death are easily visible. But after Superman’s death, there it was just as iconic The reign of the superiors. So what’s going on to fill the void left by the Justice League’s absence?

You will see. One thing that I keep putting pressure on people is: There is no Justice League. There is not going to be a Justice League for a while. And even when you read the book, you will see how very there is no Justice League. It’s an important plot point in the whole series that you just can not make and Justice League. You can not just be like “We’re the Justice League now. That’s what we need to do.” That’s not how it works. It is very clear to those of certain characters throughout history. There will be different groups of people who will try to make Justice Leagues and you will see how it goes and how it is not easy just to make one.

I think it will be really surprising to people. It’s really fascinating to see, but there are certain images that have been posted out there that we have posted on purpose in a way to mislead people to where they think the story is going and it’s coming not to go that route. I think it’s going to be a very unexpected story for some people when we start getting more into it. Especially in number one, there are a few big twists in there that people are going to be like: “Oh, I thought this should happen. “And it’s like,” No, no, no. It will not happen.” And part of that is that there is no Justice League.

Well, to borrow a sentence from Superman in Final crisis, let us all pray for a quick resurrection.

(laughs) You’ll get to see! It will be really fascinating to see how this story unfolds for people. We’ve really done a lot of work to keep certain pieces secret. I love surprises. And I really hope we surprise some people.

Justice League # 75 by Joshua Williamson, Rafa Sandoval and Jordi Tarragona is available this week in print and as a digital cartoon.

Death of the Justice League and Dark Crisis are just a few of the high-profile books Joshua Williamson writes for DC. Click here for the first part of this interview, which covers Rogues and Shadow War!

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